RedrebelThis is the so called offensive "Catenaccio" formation. This is basically a 4-4-2, but there is something different in the defense. Instead of having a flat 4 you have a diamond 4. You got the left-back,right-back, sweeper, and center-back. The way this system works is with a zonal defense system. The full-backs don't go into attack and the main task of the lone center-back is to stop the ball from getting in the box. A lot of you are going to ask how are you going to mark 2 strikers? Well, I repeat this is used with a zonal system, which means that the defenders are going to mark whoever gets in their zone. This formation was used between the 1960s and 1980s if I am correct. What do you guys think about this formation? Do you think the diamond 4 is a good idea? Or do you think this system is blame?
15.11.2008
Robert O'CarlosI suppose whichever striker had the ball you could double up with the right or left full back so you could still have 2 against 1 with the security of a sweeper behind. When this formation was played was it a standard thing that most teams played? If so you wouldn't have to worry about the opposing back line joining in an attack and the midfield would cancel each other out. If you went to a midfield diamond when attacking would that draw the centre back out of position?
16.11.2008
RedrebelIt wasn't the standard formation for that time, but some teams used it. In Italy it was where it was the most common and used. If there was an attack on the side and the outside midfielder was beat, one of the full-backs would go and get the opposive player,and the center-back would go and fill up his hole or mark the player that the full-back was marking. Also in this system the lone center-back is mostly going to be marking the opponents main striker if the striker gets in his zone.
16.11.2008
Robert O'CarlosI suppose with a good sweeper shuttling around you'd almost have 4 in defense, 5 in midfield and still 2 up front when you need it. Job's a good 'un! ;-)
18.11.2008
RedrebelI know for a fact this formation is used a lot in the United States.
18.11.2008
nvrAre you taking the mickey? How can Catenaccio be ofensive? Rhetorical. Don't bother answering. Catenaccio is the national formation of Italians and is very defensive. It just can't be offensive. Anybody who knows a thing or two about real football(not video games) can tell that.
18.11.2008
RedrebelOk I guess you didn't get it nvr. Catenaccio is not offensive you are right. I only called it offensive because this formation is more offensive than the 5 man defense. Inter Milan used this formation in Italy rather than the 5 man defense and won two or more scudettos.
18.11.2008
Robert O'CarlosHarsh Nvr! ;-)
But you're right of course. Catenaccio means door bolt or something and it was designed to be defensive ahead of anything else whereas this system is more forward thinking. I don't know if it can be strictly called catenaccio without the back 5 set up. I think Redrebel was simply trying to equate this to a progression of the catenaccio system.
Don't know about the video game thing Nvr. Used to play a bit for real, you know. ;-)
19.11.2008
RedrebelYes, you are right Robert. Catenaccio means door bolt, but it was called that because of the use of the sweeper. You can call this formation a catenaccio formation because it uses a sweeper and when using a sweeper the mentality is to be defensive. Inter Milan used their own brand of catenaccio which is this formation. By the way what do video games have to do with the Catenaccio system?
19.11.2008
RedrebelThis is just a variation.
19.11.2008
