Amadaeus15Addition: M. Goetze, Barkley, B. Bannan
Leaving: Carrick, Owen, Berbatov, Diouf, possibly Nani(70m),
26.09.2011
jestalotofjunkWhere is Rooney?
26.09.2011
manutdtillidiethis is his 2nd 11 rooney would be in his 1st 11
26.09.2011
G.K.That would get mullered in the middle. Pogba, Barkely and Bannan would be destroyed - they aren't defensive enough.
Gotze is a starter for Germany - if he was to be bought, he'd go straight into the first X1.
27.09.2011
Amadaeus15@G.K
The same reason the pair of ..erh..Anderson and Cleverley are Mulllered right? Not sure if you have watch Pogba games, but he is similar to Essien. A great defender and attacker. So he will provide the defensive cover.
Goetze being a starter for Germany does not mean anything for me. He has to battle Nani, Young, and Rooney for a first team place. And in my own godly opinion, Goetze will have to prove his worth at Manchester United before he can enter my first team.
28.09.2011
IceFalconDidn't Özil immediately started as a starter at Real Madrid (after his great WC) even when he had to battle Kaka for the CAM spot? Being a started in one of the greatest national teams at the moment does matter lol... I think your 'godly' opinion is a bit wrong, and you should get rid of that bragging attitude also.
28.09.2011
Amadaeus15@IceFalcon
lol Kaka? Kaka? Hahaaaaaa. He has not been good since he has left AC Milian. I am surprised, they are still keeping him. Anyway on the..erh..subject of Goetze, It is common knowledge that Manchester United starting eleven espicially the attacking 4 will be hard to get into, especially for a 19 year old, who we can not predict if he will able to adopt the English style of play. And like I previously stated, I would like to see how well he adapts to English football before I make a decision.
28.09.2011
Amadaeus15@in addition, I can name a plethora of players who starts for their national team, and are starting for their...erh..club. Park Chu young, Kheidra, Muntari, mascherano, Torres/Drogba, Mertesacker, Valencia, Dzeko, fabregas/ineista/xavi one of them eventually, more and more
28.09.2011
IceFalconAnd what are you trying to say now? You basically said the same thing I said, that players who start for their country mostly start in their club teams, and you named a couple of players that actually do start in their own clubs. Well, thanks for admitting my statement was correct I guess :P It was a pleasure for me to enlighten you.
28.09.2011
GeorgieWasTheBestYeah, it would have been more meaningful if he listed the players who warm the bench and still play for their national sides. But I guess it is hard to find such names from top footballing nations.
29.09.2011
G.K.Cleverly and Anderson are fully developed adults. Barkely, Pogba and Bannan are still growing - they will get overpowered at this stage.
Playing Cleverly and Anderson has left the defence much more open than it has been - not good. They need to be more disciplined. I know Pogba will be phenomenal but he is far to inexperienced at this stage.
Gotze is far too good to not start in the 1st XI every game. Far superior to Young and probably better than Rooney and Nani as well.
29.09.2011
iconsalonbannan？barkley？joking
06.10.2011
Amadaeus15@icefalcon.
I mean not starting. You statement is incorrect, small inclusion should not change that.
06.10.2011
Amadaeus15@George
Those players are listed above. More notably are out there look it up.
06.10.2011
Amadaeus15@G.K. it seems you guys do not understand the process of adapting to a new language, playing style, position, environment, etc. Goetze at first will be a second team player. If he adapts well, and consistently outperform NA I and young, he will be selected in the starting eleven. Has stated already.
At your first point, this is why it is called a second team. It provides youth with opportunity. Pogba, Barkley, and bannan pairing is not as bad as it appear.
06.10.2011
Amadaeus15@icon
Two quality players for the future. I suppose you rather have sneijder, de Rossi and balotelli right? :)
06.10.2011
Amadaeus15@G.K.
Cleverley and Anderson are still in the process of maturing. What are you on about?
06.10.2011
JimmyGuitarist@Amadaeus15 -
Cleverley's excellent now and so is Anderson but in my opinion, Anderson shouldn't be fielded as the more defensive-minded player of the two. They should field a 4-3-3 for 3 central midfielders. I saw how good Cleverley was when I watched him every week playing on-loan for Watford. He's a passing midfielder. He's definitely matured now.
07.10.2011
IceFalcon@ Amadeaus15: Lol what? you say my statement is incorrect, still you haven't listed ANY players who start in top footballing nations but warm the bench. My statement is not incorrect, it's the truth, and you lack the knowledge to counter it by giving me proper names of players that start for their top notch countries but warm the bench on club level... I hope your next reply will have something meaningful in it.
07.10.2011
Amadaeus15@IceFalcon
I already listed those players are you bind? Valencia warm the bench for Manchester united, park Chu young warm the bench for arsenal, drogba warms the bench for Chelsea if Torres is fit( they CA play together), fabregas/ineista/xavi will warm the bench for Barcelona because Barcelona plays a 4-3-3 with one holding in the mid. They all can play together. Metersaker warm the bench for arsenal, with kosheiney and vermalin fit, Fletcher if anddersona nd clevrley are fit warm the benc for Manchester united. The list go ons. It is impossible to argue with a footballing god, wh opinion is aways right.
07.10.2011
Amadaeus15@jimmyguitarist
of coursed cleverley has improved since he has been to watford. However, he has not reached full maturity yet. He is still young and have plenty of things to learn. Same goes with anderson. Lol you guys will start to call 18 mature two years from know. 5 years from know you will probably say 15 is mature. The fact is cleverley and Anderson has grown alot since they arrived at Old trafford, however he is not fully matured yet. Reaching maturity is around the age 25. on some rare occasion do we see anyone younger than that, reach maturity. Fabregas was one in recent memory. But with arsenal system, you could see why.
07.10.2011
IceFalcon@Amadeaus15: I'm not blind, you are missing the point here. I have no idea what you are trying to say now, your english lacks severily. Your point was that there are many players who warm the bench on club level but play in their BIG national sides. Exactly, you read BIG. Park Song, Drogba ? lmao, these aren't big FOOTBALLING NATIONS, these are small countries that do not matter. Since when do Xavi and Iniesta warm the bench for Barca lol? And Mertesacker will not warm the bench for Arsenal, Djourou is too weak to play for Arsenal, they need another classy central back like Vermaelen.
Before you comment again, read well, I said big footballing nations, not shitty nations like Korea or Ivory Coast...
07.10.2011
Amadaeus15@icefalcon
Shows how much you know about football. Korea and and ivory coast are arguably the best nation on their continent. Putting that aside, I named players from what you call big nation, that warm the bench for their club side if all starting 11 is fit. Fabregas, mertasacker, Andres Santos, higuain, and others. On your other point, like I stated already, xavi or iniesta or fabregas. It is up to pep to decide out of the three who will warm the bench, since Barcelona does not play with all three on the field. On the point of mertasacker, sorry to burst your bubble, but I am right again. A fit koshieny and vermalen will start over mertasacker.
Is this all clear now? You argument does not hold any ground when arguing with a football god. It makes you sound desperite and sad.
07.10.2011
IceFalconAnd your english makes me desperate* and sad.
The 15 in your nick obviously stands for your age, and we can see that it does. You keep missing my point, and I'm starting to not care about anything you say anymore as it hardly makes sense. ''Korea and Ivory Coast'' are top nations on their continent. Do you even listen? Where did i SAID CONTINENT? I said in the WORLD. Korea and Ivory Coast are NOTHING compared to the real top footballing nations I meant like Germany, Spain, Netherlands, Brasil etc.
08.10.2011
Amadaeus15@icefalcon
Is your reading comprehension that bad? You keep repeating the same thing over and over again. I listed player from Germany, Spain, brasil, etc. Do I need to put those player in CAP LOCK?
On the point of Korea and ivory coast, they are big football nation in the world. You must be daft if you think they aren't. Big football nation in my own glorious opinion are teams who consistently qualify for the world cup/other important tournament, and are ranked high in the fifa ranking. These two team falls into this category, so for me they are big nation. And others will agree with me.
08.10.2011
IceFalconLook at GeorgiesIsTheBest' comment and you'll see that others don't agree with you.
Your just a 15 year old bragging over the internet, gratz.
08.10.2011
Amadaeus15@Icefalcon
GeorgeistheBest is has ignorant as the majority of poster on the internet about football. He must also have bad reading comprehension. I listed players who starts for big nation, that as you phrase it, warm the bench at their club team. Isn't this what you ask? Isn't that what I have done?
I know no one likes to admit defeat, but in this conversation, you got massacred. Not only did I provide evidence to back up my claim, I also exhibited class only worthy of the greatest football tactians on the internet. The longer you drag this on, the more idiotic you will look my friend :).
08.10.2011
IceFalconLMAO, your funny, either way, I don't care, I'm not the pathetic
ignorant, arrogant twat showing off on the Internet because he is being dominated in his own real life. I never got massacred, otherwise I wouldn't of replied; this conversation is over, and the only idiot that was in it, was you.
08.10.2011
Amadaeus15@icefalcon
There is no way I could be the idiot in this conversation. Provided that I supported my claims with factual evidence. The only idiot is the guy who keeps repeating himself, over and over and over again. Even with the fact that since the beginning, I answered your question. A small typo might have confused the lots of you, but even a monkey....no that is being to kind. Even a rock that does not support life could figure what I was trying to say. :)
08.10.2011
G.K.You don't understand about Gotze - he won't come to you lot to sit on bench/reserves - he is just too good to not play. Best AM in the world outside Barca/Ozil/Sneijder already.
Also, if I put powerful players, i.e. Essien, Drogba, so no so forth, players who are physically immense, your CM will be creamed, those playeres are just too underdeveloped.
16.10.2011
Amadaeus15@G.K.
...how many times do I have to say this. Goetze will start in my starting eleven based on what I see from him in training and how well he will adopt to my/English style of play. I will not just throw in a 19 year old foreign player into my starting 11 without good evaluation of his talent, and how he well suit into my/English football. This philosophy goes to almost every player foreign to the English league. Anderson, Nani, Ronaldo, Canton a, etc all followed this philoshy. If they are good enough, they will be implemented into the squad immediately. Which Goetze, will fall into this category as pointed out in my first team 11.
16.10.2011
Amadaeus15@G.K.
About your second point, in my own opinion, Paul Pogba is the powerful player I have in my cm. He may be underdevlop, but consistent games at this level will develop him into a better player. I see pogba as a Viera(who is ten times more efficient going forward). Viera was a solid powerful defensive midfielder. In my eyes Pogba could be better in every aspect of Viera game if he start early.
I might reconsider B. bannan though. I am slowly losing interest in this guy talent. Instead of Bannan, I could say Tiote or Rodwell. If Bannan fails to make a mark this season, I might instead go for Rod well of Tiote.
16.10.2011
david1993ravel morrision? he is back playin for the reserves and scored
16.10.2011
Amadaeus15@david1993
Very talented, but unlike Pogba, he has a piss poor football attitude. He has only himself to blame if he never reach great height. He needs to focus more on football and less on his social life, if he wants to be considered.
17.10.2011
david1993@amadaeus15 i agree his attitude is terrible but if he changes that which i think he may do he cud be one of the best to cause the talent the young boy has is unbelievable
17.10.2011
chicarooneyVery overatted youngsters in that team like Bannan,Pogba,Gotze and Barkley
30.10.2011
